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started by howard11792 on October 31, 2009

I have a choice between two brand new bikes... Roughly at the same price

2008 Cervelo P3
2008 Specialized S Works Transition

I can't decide. I know more of you ride the Cervelo but let me know any pros or cons of either.

I will use my own wheelset 404/808.

Any feedback is great.

Thanks

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lala2021 posted 2 weeks ago.

If you really can't decide just do the old eenie meenie minie moe!lol Jealous btw!:~)

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howard11792 posted 2 weeks ago.

I was going to flip a coin : ))

But before I do that coin toss, I want to get some feedback on both of them...

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trimanjp posted 2 weeks ago.

Before flipping a coin I would look at both bikes, look at their reviews and if they are available at your local bike shop test ride them. I havent seen to many Specialized S works Transitions out at any of my local events but Macca certainly has done well on it. I have a Cervelo myself and they are stiff, responsive, aero and light. I would still gather some information before you flip a coin.

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Triathlete954 posted 2 weeks ago.

Have you been measured to see what bike geometry would best fit you? I think that would be the best way to figure it out. both are very nice, but I'm going to throw a wrench in the mix and say the new Kestrel 4000 ltd. Just because nobody will have it and you'll stick out from the crowd, the aero dynamics of the bike are right with the the P3 and maybe the P4.

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VANZK posted 2 weeks ago.

Cannondale...Slice...

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emzman posted 2 weeks ago.

Transition...because it looks cooler!!!

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Gsal posted 2 weeks ago.

i would go with the s-works transition in a heartbeat. Me, personally, i would never get on a cervelo. Not only do I personally (just an opinion) dislike cervelo, i actually love the s-works transition. I've ridden it a few times and its pretty comfortable for a tri bike. But seriously, who wants to have what everyone else has? thats why i got my bright orange trek ttx. I think that cervelo focuses alot on the aerodynamics of the frame itself,which are irrelevant, because its about the rider on the frame itself. the most aero frame in the world is pointless if the rider cant put out his/her max power on it because of a weird position.

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howard11792 posted 2 weeks ago.

Thanks Gsal - yes, every bike in the rack is Cervelo. It is nice to have something different.

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Dannyboy posted 2 weeks ago.

If you want to get what is best for you, you need to close your eyes (theoretically). Everyone has opinions on bikes and most of them are based on emotion. When I sold bikes it was easy to sell a Trek to a Trek fan, but telling them they would be more suited for a Bianchi was impossible. Test riding is VERY important, but with that I would test ride at a couple of different shops. Each shop will also have their favorites and will tell you different things about them (a lot of shop opinions are based on how cool the rep is). The biggest thing is to not let your heart guide your decision, let your body do that. I know I didn't give you any direction but I have seen the remorse of people buying with their emotions and then finding out the bought the wrong thing later.

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xc800runner posted 2 weeks ago.

Gsal wrote:
I think that cervelo focuses alot on the aerodynamics of the frame itself,which are irrelevant, because its about the rider on the frame itself.

Bike as a whole accounts for 20-25% of the aerodynamics, so it does play a role. The Specialized wasn't designed solely for aerodynamics, which is why it has sloping tubes that slow it down. Is this significant? Not really. Look at Matty Reed on his D-6. It's not the most aero frame out there, but when you're pushing 350+ watts, it doesn't matter... Also, the short head tubes on your Cervelo frames make it easier to get low in the front, which gives your body a faster position. I have long, gangling arms, and need a super short head tube to get a flat back. I believe the specialized fits this same category.

That said, there's a reason you see so many Cervelo's on the rack. It's not because Cervelo markets them as the best, it's because people ride them and decide it's what they choose over others. If you want something original, paint it. Otherwise, you still have a stock bike that someone else has a copy of somewhere. I ride a cervelo, but unless you look very closely at the seat-tube, it doesn't say it anywhere else on the bike.

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howard11792 posted 1 week ago.

xc800runner - Did you do a custom paint job on your Cervelo?

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fastdog5 posted 1 week ago.

Dannyboy wrote:
If you want to get what is best for you, you need to close your eyes (theoretically). Everyone has opinions on bikes and most of them are based on emotion. When I sold bikes it was easy to sell a Trek to a Trek fan, but telling them they would be more suited for a Bianchi was impossible. Test riding is VERY important, but with that I would test ride at a couple of different shops. Each shop will also have their favorites and will tell you different things about them (a lot of shop opinions are based on how cool the rep is). The biggest thing is to not let your heart guide your decision, let your body do that. I know I didn't give you any direction but I have seen the remorse of people buying with their emotions and then finding out the bought the wrong thing later.

I could not agree more. I went to the bike shop a few years ago 100% dead-set on buying a Cervelo, and I left with a Felt. I just liked the feel of it a lot better when I test-rode them. To the point above, I was lucky to find a shop where the owner was 100% impartial and made me decide what I wanted; there was no sales job at all. I practically had to beg for his opinion on a few things.