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This video from the today show made me want to hurl

http://video.msn.com/dw.aspx/?mkt=en-us&from=truveo&vid=b5cbc941-78f6-44...

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KellyW posted 10 weeks ago.

I got a message saying, "We're sorry, this video is not available at this time." Maybe it made other people hurl too, and they took it off? Too bad, because you made me so curious!

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groovyjen posted 10 weeks ago.

Give us a capsule summary - now I'm curious.

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jtrimom posted 10 weeks ago.

http://www.everymantri.com/everyman_triathlon/2009/09/and-the-worst-tria...

see if that works better for your viewing horror

nope...doesn't seem to be working, maybe someone can fix the link, but,,,it's basically these two today show women "training" for a sprint they are signed up for on the 20th at Kathie Lee's house. Literally turned my stomach. and then they talked about the training in the studio, which wasn't any better

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Anton posted 10 weeks ago.

There's a problem with running a Marathon in 3:31?

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TonisTri posted 10 weeks ago.

Try this:

http://video.aol.ca/video-detail/today-hosts-train-for-triathlon/4122487...

Then click on the pic of the two women kissing their trainer.

btw, Natalie M runs a marathon in 3:31. Just sayin...

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TonisTri posted 10 weeks ago.

Anton wrote:
There's a problem with running a Marathon in 3:31?

No. I'm impressed with her running. But the video shows them taking their training VERY lightly. Neither of them are ready for the swim. Neither have biked much. They are not setting a very good example for people who want to try a tri for the first time. But hey, it's television. I stopped expecting them to be accurate and responsible a long time ago...

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krazyfranco posted 10 weeks ago.

Fixed Link.

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krazyfranco posted 10 weeks ago.

"...In the past few weeks, I've gone swimming only 3 times..."

Sounds like PoC's IM swim training plan.

Overall, pretty nauseating. One gem at the end, through, when their coach says:
"You can actually do a triathlon without training."

The secret is out.

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foggy posted 10 weeks ago.

I couldn't even watch the entire thing. Yuck.

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katarddx posted 10 weeks ago.

some CAN do sprint triathlon without training. not well, but some people dont care about time neither... not saying it is the right thing, but very doable.

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Clint-murphy posted 10 weeks ago.

krazyfranco wrote:
"...In the past few weeks, I've gone swimming only 3 times..."

Sounds like PoC's IM swim training plan.

Overall, pretty nauseating. One gem at the end, through, when their coach says:
"You can actually do a triathlon without training."

The secret is out.


"You can actually do a triathlon without training." - I think they're on to my training plan!

That said, I will try to average at least 7-1/2 hours / week for next year's IMC.

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jwillia852 posted 10 weeks ago.

I'd train with Natalie any day of the week.

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TriSooner posted 10 weeks ago.

krazyfranco wrote:
"You can actually do a triathlon without training."
The secret is out.

Disclaimer: I haven't seen the vid (Flash blocked on this PC), but when I do, I'm sure it will incur my snark. The secret is out. The distances have gotten so short, cut-off times are so soft at every level with no qualification requirements, and there's such a "me too" attitude that regardless of conditioning, everyone is encouraged to do one regardless of their fitness (espeically OWS fitness) and call themselves a "triathlete." Meh, that's why I'm looking elsewhere. If the club is that easy to get into, why be a member?

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krazyfranco posted 10 weeks ago.

TriSooner wrote:
The distances have gotten so short...

This one is a 400 yd. swim / 10 mi bike / 3 mi run.

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jwillia852 posted 10 weeks ago.

If you don't like the game, find a new court and make your own rules (Apple). My vote is to start a new Triathlon sanctioning body, made up of athletes -- get a few sponsors, create a killer championship series that includes different distances, race types (on road, off road), and make it a challenge.

I'll help.

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Anton posted 10 weeks ago.

TonisTri wrote:
Anton wrote:
There's a problem with running a Marathon in 3:31?

No. I'm impressed with her running. But the video shows them taking their training VERY lightly. Neither of them are ready for the swim. Neither have biked much. They are not setting a very good example for people who want to try a tri for the first time. But hey, it's television. I stopped expecting them to be accurate and responsible a long time ago...


Ok...I got ya.

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Anton posted 10 weeks ago.

TriSooner wrote:
krazyfranco wrote:
"You can actually do a triathlon without training."
The secret is out.

Disclaimer: I haven't seen the vid (Flash blocked on this PC), but when I do, I'm sure it will incur my snark. The secret is out. The distances have gotten so short, cut-off times are so soft at every level with no qualification requirements, and there's such a "me too" attitude that regardless of conditioning, everyone is encouraged to do one regardless of their fitness (espeically OWS fitness) and call themselves a "triathlete." Meh, that's why I'm looking elsewhere. If the club is that easy to get into, why be a member?


I'm a big supporter on egalitarian athletics...I think everyone SHOULD be able to participate but as I've done in the past I bail on a sport, rockclimbing for example, when it just gets too crowded...But that's a personal thing. Tri's are getting that way...It's the cool thing to do. So, standards come down, because that increases the income derived. I have noticed at some local races, more and more folks coming in outside the cutoff or bailing in T1 or T2. Not too mention the folks that endanger others by having NO idea what they are doing.
If ya all get frustrated...your welcome over here with the Ultrarunners and I've found Ultracyclists to be quite friendly and welcoming and the events quite small.
P.S. I've also started climbing again seriously, because the numbers have dropped so much it's pleasant again.
It will happen with tri's too...it will just take some time.

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dkhartung posted 10 weeks ago.

And apparently the bar is't very high for a coach either. I looked up Robert Pennino from the video on Athlinks. He looks to be a 2:20 guy for an Oly. Not bad, but geez, not exactly my role model.

In spite of all my snarkiness, I guess if that horrible bit gets a couple of their 35 BMI viewers off the couch and willing to do SOMETHING, then I shouldn't be too critical.

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TriLancer posted 10 weeks ago.

Its a 400 yard ocean swim and the ocean hasn't been nice to us in over a month. Hope the practiced some open water swimming.

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groovyjen posted 10 weeks ago.

Sooner - How does the inclusiveness of tris bug you? I can understand if you, personally, don't want to race with less experienced folks. So just go for longer and/or more competitive events. Problem solved.

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paganopj posted 10 weeks ago.

I can't believe someone would try a triathlon without training...even a sprint. I've only done two sprints but geesh...I wouldn't have finished the swim had I not swam in open water and I should have trained even more...

I am glad for the shorter distances...for me it was a goal to aspire to coming from no fitness 18 mos ago and now sets the stage to increase mileage and speed. I hate to think someone would rest on their laurels and call themselves a triathlete after just one race. For me I thought it was something I could never do and had to work to accomplish.

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beads1985 posted 10 weeks ago.

I think the shorter distances are good.
My wife is doing the Danskin this weekend.
She would have never attempted this before she met me and now she is comfortable doing a sprint tri. She takes it seriously and trains, unlike how they portray this on the Today show.

Unfortunately they make it look like a big joke.

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GaryTimTim posted 10 weeks ago.

Not surprised by the Today show at all. Andrew McLean (ski mountaineer, www.straightchuter.com) went on it a few months ago to talk about avalanche safety gear with a lady from backcountry.com and the hosts were super casual about it... definitely conveyed the message that "hey you got a beacon, you're now immune...go for it!" Right along the lines of saying "you got a wetsuit? Then it's impossible to drown!"

But thinking about the general audience, I think more people would be in line with Kathy Lee's role vs. the gals doing the tri.

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kevinb421 posted 10 weeks ago.

Lately it seems that the half marathon is the new cool thing and everyone who can finish a 5k is signing up. Its nice that the popularity is going up, but spending the first half mile of my marathon weaving through people running 10 minute miles who wanted to start up front is getting increasingly annoying.

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paganopj posted 10 weeks ago.

kevinb421 wrote:
Lately it seems that the half marathon is the new cool thing and everyone who can finish a 5k is signing up. Its nice that the popularity is going up, but spending the first half mile of my marathon weaving through people running 10 minute miles who wanted to start up front is getting increasingly annoying.

I'll try to start in the back! Working on the speed...it takes forever it seems... ;)

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em_me posted 10 weeks ago.

couldn't watch it.. .it was just stupid and painful.

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PrinceofClydes posted 10 weeks ago.

Ahem. I have a confession.
In 1993, as a sports journalist, I chose to go to Kona to cover the Ironman. Mark Allen was attempting to win his 5th in a row.
I entered the Kelowna Olympic distance tri on a whim, as research.
I had done no training.

I had never swum 1500m before, had not run a 10k in a year, had biked only to and from the gym in over a year, never raced.
I was't unfit. I played BB at an elite level and was in the wt. room 4 or 5 times weekly.
I figured, they have kayaks? I won't drown. Grandma can bike 40k if she has all day.
I finished last in 3:37:00.

I won a pair of Look pedals as a door prize. So i had to buy bike shoes. then I got an aero bar, then I got a pair of tubbies and in 1994 I returned to Kelowna.
I ripped a 1:10 bike split (incl transitions) and finished in 2:37:00 - my goal time.
I took an hour off my time of 1993 and have never looked back.

So entering a triathlon casually just to see if you like it isn't all bad.
A lot of RDs market the sprint distance as a chance to experience triathlon, an introductory race.

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PrinceofClydes wrote:
Ahem. I have a confession.
In 1993, as a sports journalist, I chose to go to Kona to cover the Ironman. Mark Allen was attempting to win his 5th in a row.
I entered the Kelowna Olympic distance tri on a whim, as research.
I had done no training.

I had never swum 1500m before, had not run a 10k in a year, had biked only to and from the gym in over a year, never raced.
I was't unfit. I played BB at an elite level and was in the wt. room 4 or 5 times weekly.
I figured, they have kayaks? I won't drown. Grandma can bike 40k if she has all day.
I finished last in 3:37:00.

I won a pair of Look pedals as a door prize. So i had to buy bike shoes. then I got an aero bar, then I got a pair of tubbies and in 1994 I returned to Kelowna.
I ripped a 1:10 bike split (incl transitions) and finished in 2:37:00 - my goal time.
I took an hour off my time of 1993 and have never looked back.

So entering a triathlon casually just to see if you like it isn't all bad.
A lot of RDs market the sprint distance as a chance to experience triathlon, an introductory race.

PoC

+1
My first 3 sprints I did little or no training other than the running I had been doing. My first IMC I didn't swim until the month before and then only 2x a week, still came out with a 1:10 swim. Was I fast on the sprints? First couple out of the water, and mop on the rest. But I am not a sprinter, nor will I ever be. If you are fit and have been doing at least one of the legs(ie running) and know how to swim you can do well. Y'all need to relax a bit and let people have their fun, and don't be jealous of their succss just because you have to train harder.

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zagfan posted 10 weeks ago.

I look at sprints as an entry level event that gives people a chance to try out the sport. How many people do you know who are competitive athletes that want to focus on the sprint distance? People either focus on Oly, HIM, or IM, sprints are there for beginners and veterans looking to let the legs rip for a change. I've raced one sprint and the majority of the crowd looked like they decided at the last second to dust off the mountain bike to try to and finish a triathlon. But I was glad that they were at least out trying something new. Of course you're going to get the idiot who can't swim but seeds himself at the front, but for the most part it seems that those that aren't great swimmers know it and don't want to get run over by the rest of us no more than we want them flailing their arms in front of us. They tend to go to the back and just enjoy the event. Its not for everyone, definitely not me, but not everyone takes triathlon as serious as most of us on here do.

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jtrimom posted 10 weeks ago.

I personally don't have a problem with people *who can swim* doing a triathlon on a whim. The thing about the segment that irritated me was the way they made triathlon training look like a friggin joke, with an idiot coach standing over them while they did the side stroke...were they even wearing goggles? It was just the whole stupidity of it that didn't give a picture of any sort of necessary discipline. I mean, if people want to go into a tri w/o training, have at it, but at least SHOW people what they are going into...and it DOESN"T look like Kathie Lee's backyard.

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groovyjen posted 10 weeks ago.

kevinb421 wrote:
Lately it seems that the half marathon is the new cool thing and everyone who can finish a 5k is signing up. Its nice that the popularity is going up, but spending the first half mile of my marathon weaving through people running 10 minute miles who wanted to start up front is getting increasingly annoying.

I resemble that remark! First half in October.

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jwillia852 posted 10 weeks ago.

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I hate to think someone would rest on their laurels and call themselves a triathlete after just one race.

Why? Based on this logic, how many races would it take? The tough part of life is that you may have worked for over a year to compete in the same race and not only did they not train, but they may still beat you. It happens every race, all over the world... And whether you like you like it or not, they have just as much right to call themselves a triathlete as you.

I think jtrimom is spot on though as it wasn't as much the fact that they were doing the triathlon, but it was they mocked the training regimen.

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katarddx posted 9 weeks ago.

so what? that is why we have sprint tri, or? it is good for sport. if i have to weave between 10min\mile runner - so what??? they are doing THEIR best... it doesn't bother me a bit.

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tmhagen posted 9 weeks ago.

I agree. I am that 10 min miler and have done three half marathons, an Oly, and HIM all since starting training this year. I might be slow, but I train hard. AND I start in the back....

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Tamara posted 9 weeks ago.

Yes, if you cross the finish line of a triathlon, you are a triathlete. What I think you are referring to is whether someone embraces the endurance lifestyle and makes it truly a part of who they are as opposed to a one-time experience to cross it off their 'bucket list'. How many people do triathlons for a number of years, finally do an ironman, and never do another one. Do we begrudge them their "YOU ARE AN IRONMAN!" at the finish line?

All that being said, I didn't watch the clip, but am guessing it would bother me too. I want everyone I know to challenge themselves to do the impossible -- for some that's a walk around the block, or a 5k, or a sprint triathlon. But I want them to prepare in a way that's smart and safe, and to arrive at the starting line as ready as they can be.

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JAPRYSE posted 9 weeks ago.

HAHA!! I thought it was a funny segment.

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paganopj posted 9 weeks ago.

jwillia852 wrote:
paganopj wrote:
I hate to think someone would rest on their laurels and call themselves a triathlete after just one race.

Why? Based on this logic, how many races would it take? The tough part of life is that you may have worked for over a year to compete in the same race and not only did they not train, but they may still beat you. It happens every race, all over the world... And whether you like you like it or not, they have just as much right to call themselves a triathlete as you.

I think jtrimom is spot on though as it wasn't as much the fact that they were doing the triathlon, but it was they mocked the training regimen.

I did my first two races this year, both sprints. I was 267lbs last April and sedentary. What I meant was that it wasn't being taken seriously. If you run just one race, you've completed a triathlon, but really, if you rest there, are you really a triathlete? (Believe me, I'm one of the slowest racers on this board but I put a lot of effort into getting here.) Wasn't meant to be snobbish by any means.

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PrinceofClydes posted 9 weeks ago.

Tamara wrote:
Yes, if you cross the finish line of a triathlon, you are a triathlete. What I think you are referring to is whether someone embraces the endurance lifestyle and makes it truly a part of who they are as opposed to a one-time experience to cross it off their 'bucket list'. How many people do triathlons for a number of years, finally do an ironman, and never do another one. Do we begrudge them their "YOU ARE AN IRONMAN!" at the finish line?

All that being said, I didn't watch the clip, but am guessing it would bother me too. I want everyone I know to challenge themselves to do the impossible -- for some that's a walk around the block, or a 5k, or a sprint triathlon. But I want them to prepare in a way that's smart and safe, and to arrive at the starting line as ready as they can be.

I agree, Tamara.

It's a complicated sport what with all the various distances. It has something to offer everyone and there will be no ultimate decision about what a triathlete is. There are just too many variables. You can call yourself a triathlete if you win a sprint or finish at 16:54 in an ironman. Is anyone going to say Sister Madonna Buder, who finished in 16:54 two weeks ago at IMC, isn't a triathlete?

Anyone who takes the Today Show team seriously and then enters a triathlon will find out for themselves. Those who don't realize that it takes serious training effort to do what we do won't understand this conversation and their opinion isn't going to affect me any one way or the other.

c'est la vie!

I can only think the coach was trying to drum up clients when he said that you can actually "do a triathlon without training."
My prep for my first impromptu triathlon was BB and wts, and was horribly insufficient. I shudder to think what will happen to couch potatoes who attempt even a Sprint distance event without any training!

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wirebook posted 9 weeks ago.

I'm rather surprised at some of the comments here. It seems like there's a solid faction of folks that want triathlons (at any level, be it the shortest of sprints or an Ironman) to be some super-secret-elite club. Let's be clear - unless you were on the beach in Hawaii in 1978 - you aren't part of that super-secret-elite club. You're a follower, just like everyone else.

But followers are good - they are what differentiates a sport from a made up game in your backyard. Followers allow all of us to actually do this sport and spread it onto other folks. If we didn't get new followers than simple attrition would eventually dissolve the sport. And yes, we need all sorts of followers - from the one-day-Ultraman to the one-time-can't-swim-soccer-mom. Each is critical in ensuring the steady flow of people into the sport that keeps the sport alive as a whole. At one point you too were at the start of your first triathlon, fully prepared or otherwise.

The majority of people who POST here are likely fairly serious, or at least heavily interested in their training. But the people who post here are but a tiny fraction of those who actually come here. Silent lurkers always FAR OUTWEIGH posters. There's a lot of people out there who don't get up every single day and work schedules to ensure that every workout occurs without issue - at the cost of everything else (I know...hard to believe).

While there may be a feeling that you have to properly train with numerous workouts in each sport a week, to be able to do your first triathlon - the reality is...you don't. For a sprint triathlon, most folks can make it through just fine as long as they can float their way un-stylishistically through the swim. Sure they'll have varying levels of enjoyment - but that's alright. I'm willing to bet the number of people who perform at the 'less than ideal' level on their first tri - and still go out and do another one - far excedds the number of 'one-time-tri' folks.

It just seems that folks here are upset because a new person will go out and enjoy the day without having completed "the proper' swim drills, running technique sessions and specific cycling farklets. Really? Just swim, bike and run - and let others enjoy doing the same.

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csaf31 posted 9 weeks ago.

I am participating in this race on Sunday. It's called War at the Shore in Long Branch, NJ. Sure they mocked the training a bit. Their bike ride was a joke and the swim was downright goofy. However, they are going to be out there trying, which is great. The editor in chief of Self Magazine is going to be there too, but she's been racing tris for years. The whole thing was done as part of a fitness series and getting in shape. As long as the camera man doesn't get in my way in transition, good for them. Maybe it will bring more people down to watch the event. More spectator is great for everyone.

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Tamara posted 9 weeks ago.

wirebook wrote:
It just seems that folks here are upset because a new person will go out and enjoy the day without having completed "the proper' swim drills, running technique sessions and specific cycling farklets. Really? Just swim, bike and run - and let others enjoy doing the same.

Ray ~ At least for me, I don't think it's a matter of being upset that people aren't taking it "seriously" as in living and breathing triathlon, training at 5am, checking on Trifuel every hour. But I think what I'm sensing is many responses here are saying that it's foolish and potentially even dangerous to tell the general population "hey, you can do this with no training." We've all seen people panic in the water, weave all over the bike course and barely survive the 5K deathmarch to know that it's just smart to at least learn a little bit, maybe get in the water a few times, try to bike the race distance before showing up at the start line. Those folks will have a more enjoyable event, and it will be safer for everyone.

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jwillia852 posted 9 weeks ago.

Tamara wrote:
wirebook wrote:
It just seems that folks here are upset because a new person will go out and enjoy the day without having completed "the proper' swim drills, running technique sessions and specific cycling farklets. Really? Just swim, bike and run - and let others enjoy doing the same.

Ray ~ At least for me, I don't think it's a matter of being upset that people aren't taking it "seriously" as in living and breathing triathlon, training at 5am, checking on Trifuel every hour. But I think what I'm sensing is many responses here are saying that it's foolish and potentially even dangerous to tell the general population "hey, you can do this with no training." We've all seen people panic in the water, weave all over the bike course and barely survive the 5K deathmarch to know that it's just smart to at least learn a little bit, maybe get in the water a few times, try to bike the race distance before showing up at the start line. Those folks will have a more enjoyable event, and it will be safer for everyone.

+1 - I would agree that a majority of the responses appear to be consistent with that.

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PrinceofClydes posted 9 weeks ago.

That DC ethos is catching, huh?

I hope some tri-virgin's epitaph doesn't become,
"But the coach said I could do it without training!"

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wirebook posted 9 weeks ago.

Nice MSPaint Skillz there PoC. :) If I come back to IMC, will you give me one of them?

As a minor aside - another video from the series was posted today:

http://www.everymantri.com/everyman_triathlon/2009/09/video-natalie-mora...

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wirebook wrote:
Nice MSPaint Skillz there PoC. :) If I come back to IMC, will you give me one of them?

As a minor aside - another video from the series was posted today:

http://www.everymantri.com/everyman_triathlon/2009/09/video-natalie-mora...

I saw that on Everymantri, and this one is almost as sickening as the 1st, BUT at least they got some OWS in before the race

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PrinceofClydes posted 9 weeks ago.

I smell a new Reality TV series coming on.. Tri-Newbies in Da House!

"A group of randomly selected couch potatoes and former Marine DIs as their Personal trainers, pair up at random to see which duo does better at the XXX Olympic Distance Triathlon. They live together, eat together, workout together at Camp Pendleton a la Big Brother, until the big day when they all toe the line to decide which pair gets the $100,000 in prize money."

See "Ironballs" Mike Kosanski and CPA Charles "Chuckie" Spelvin
go up against,
Angelo "Dutch" Schultz and his charge 6'9" 154lb Niles "Stork" Finch
in the pool and see
Jimmy "Nutso" Dillinger & Jerry "Fats" Paulsen
and
Leroy "Rambo" Fitzinger & Larry "De Nile" Walters
run into the ground on the track in Episode One
while two other newbies TBA, will endure a spin class "coached" by
former Paris Island DIs,
Arthur "Tommy" Gunn and Francis "Gonzo" Feldman

Spike TV, 9pmEST/Tuesdays this Fall

PoC

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gfd posted 9 weeks ago.

PrinceofClydes wrote:
I smell a new Reality TV series coming on.. Tri-Newbies in Da House!

"A group of randomly selected couch potatoes and former Marine DIs as their Personal trainers, pair up at random to see which duo does better at the XXX Olympic Distance Triathlon. They live together, eat together, workout together at Camp Pendleton a la Big Brother, until the big day when they all toe the line to decide which pair gets the $100,000 in prize money."

See "Ironballs" Mike Kosanski and CPA Charles "Chuckie" Spelvin
go up against,
Angelo "Dutch" Schultz and his charge 6'9" 154lb Niles "Stork" Finch
in the pool and see
Jimmy "Nutso" Dillinger & Jerry "Fats" Paulsen
and
Leroy "Rambo" Fitzinger & Larry "De Nile" Walters
run into the ground on the track in Episode One
while two other newbies TBA, will endure a spin class "coached" by
former Paris Island DIs,
Arthur "Tommy" Gunn and Francis "Gonzo" Feldman

Spike TV, 9pmEST/Tuesdays this Fall

PoC

Now that is funny!

A new team has just been added.

"Psycho" Frank DeMarini and his partner Cliff "IceMan" Evans.
They live life on "The Edge". Their motto: "We Take No Prisoners"

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~Garen~
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jtrimom posted 9 weeks ago.

I have no idea what you people are talking about :(

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PrinceofClydes posted 9 weeks ago.

{quote=jtrimom]I have no idea what you people are talking about :(

Which part? Ray sounding like he's stumping for the next Democratic nomination?

or the naivete of the Self Magazine team, suggesting to me a new reality TV spin-off, like Survivor meets Big Brother meets Biggest Loser, where couch potatoes who might be persuaded that they could "do a triathlon without training" vie for a huge money prize and are matched up with a demonic coach by choosing lots, said coaches being ex-Marine Drill Instructors, pretty much every athlete's worst nightmare?

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- TonisTri. 10/2009

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jtrimom posted 9 weeks ago.

ahhh, thanks, PoC, that explains all the names I had no idea about

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