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started by jnrice on October 10, 2008

So they've changed how much a adult should work out to be "healthy".

They say, "The new HHS guidelines go a bit easier and recommend an average of half an hour a day (exercise such as "brisk walking"), five days a week -- or more"

My question, how many people get this in their commute alone? Does this mean I should be logging the miles/intensity at which I ride by bike to work? I saw sign everyone up for a spring sprint Tri and tell them if they don't finish we'll unplug their internet. :)

More on the issue at:
http://health.yahoo.com/news/reuters/us_exercise_guidelines_usa.html
or:
http://www.health.gov/paguidelines/

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jhudalla posted 6 weeks ago.

Ha, my favorite is the warning signs on the treadmills at the gym.

*Warning* Do not over exert yourself.

If you go to the gym to not exert yourself, you might as well go home. IMHO.

Weary is the path that does not challenge.

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CadenceGuy posted 6 weeks ago.

I think a brisk walk brings my heart rate to hmmmm maybe 70, is that all I really need?!! Id go to the Y but I dont want to 'overexert' myself, heaven forbid I should break a sweat!

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fastdog5 posted 6 weeks ago.

jhudalla wrote:
If you go to the gym to not exert yourself, you might as well go home. IMHO.

Yes, go home, and spare the rest of us from your complaints that it is too cold in the gym. Try breaking a sweat. (Note: It's really warm in my gym, and I'm really bitter about it).

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jhudalla posted 6 weeks ago.

fastdog5 wrote:
jhudalla wrote:
If you go to the gym to not exert yourself, you might as well go home. IMHO.

Yes, go home, and spare the rest of us from your complaints that it is too cold in the gym. Try breaking a sweat. (Note: It's really warm in my gym, and I'm really bitter about it).

Ha, that's hilarious! I really like pools that are really warm too.

Weary is the path that does not challenge.

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jnrice posted 6 weeks ago.

jhudalla wrote:
fastdog5 wrote:
jhudalla wrote:
If you go to the gym to not exert yourself, you might as well go home. IMHO.

Yes, go home, and spare the rest of us from your complaints that it is too cold in the gym. Try breaking a sweat. (Note: It's really warm in my gym, and I'm really bitter about it).

Ha, that's hilarious! I really like pools that are really warm too.

NO! Warm pools kill me! I can't breath and get so tired. if you can stand around in the pool and not shiver then it's to warm.

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jhudalla posted 6 weeks ago.

Agreed.

Weary is the path that does not challenge.

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zagfan posted 6 weeks ago.

It kills me to see how lazy our country is getting. Have we really gotten to the point where walking for 30 minutes is considered exercise? It's just a pet peave (sp?) of mine when standards are lowered because the majority can no longer meet them, we do it all the time in the Army.

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upsidedown posted 6 weeks ago.

Yeah, it's sad that people actually look to the government for guidance on fitness and nutrition. After all, since when is the government an expert on any of this.

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jtrimom posted 6 weeks ago.

okay, I don't know about you guys, but if I only walked 20 min a day, 5 days a week, and ate all that they tell you you should be eating, I would be as big as a house

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jhudalla posted 6 weeks ago.

zagfan wrote:
It kills me to see how lazy our country is getting. Have we really gotten to the point where walking for 30 minutes is considered exercise? It's just a pet peave (sp?) of mine when standards are lowered because the majority can no longer meet them, we do it all the time in the Army.

They do the same thing in the education system. But this site is about triathlon so... HELL YEA!

Weary is the path that does not challenge.

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hwangnyc posted 6 weeks ago.

The guidelines are established to induce health benefits not to meet fitness goals. Hopefully if people follow theses guidelines they become interested in physical activity and continue beyond theses standards. Truth of the matter is if the guidelines were more vigorous no one would do it. Think about the people who get virtually no physical activity a day. Having them perform vigorous acuity immediately will lead to failure to comply or even risk of injury.

Gotta lose that head fat.

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snapdragon posted 6 weeks ago.

I agree, 30 minutes of walking doesn't seem like much, especially for triathletes and others who are already fit.

But that's the thing. For a lot of people in our country, 30 minutes of walking would be great!
Yes, it seems the standard of fitness has changed.

How can we encourage people to get moving?

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Ironmom posted 6 weeks ago.

snapdragon wrote:
I agree, 30 minutes of walking doesn't seem like much, especially for triathletes and others who are already fit.

But that's the thing. For a lot of people in our country, 30 minutes of walking would be great!
Yes, it seems the standard of fitness has changed.

How can we encourage people to get moving?

Put gas back up over $4.00 per gallon. Our LBS had people digging bikes out of their cobwebbed garage corners, bus ridership doubled, and people I have never seen walking were suddenly trudging the 1/2 mile to the store instead of driving, when gas was more expensive a few months ago.

Last week, we payed 50.00 Euro (about $68.00) to fill up **half** the gas tank of a very very small car that we rented in Italy (for one day). But getting on the train was cheap, easy, convenient, and the streets were full of people walking in every city and town we went to. We've had subsidized fuel here in the U.S. for so long that people have gotten out of the habit of self-transportation, and our governmental systems (trains, busses, etc.) no longer support it.

One of my projects for next summer is to try to get a "Saturday Stroll" going on Saturday evenings in our neighborhood. One of my favorite things about visiting countries like Italy and Spain is the automatic evening stroll that everyone in town seems to take (even in chilly November when we were in Spain, the streets were filled). I figure if I can get our neighborhood market to have some kind of promotional thing (wine tasting, crackers and cheese) and people know that their neighbors will be out, it might just take off. Also we're working on "Walk and Roll" days each month when a major thoroughfare in town will be closed to all motorized traffic.

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jonovision_man posted 6 weeks ago.

snapdragon wrote:
How can we encourage people to get moving?

Frankly, if people don't feel encouraged yet, then there's little hope... the health benefits have been stated over and over, it's no secret, they just aren't ready to exercise.

But how about the way we design our cities? Almost everywhere I've lived, especially in the suburbs, I've used a car to get most of my daily errands done. If we designed cities, towns, neighbourhoods around walking and biking rather than driving, we might have people get their exercise just doing their daily tasks.

Probably too much to ask, but certainly car culture is a big part of the problem.

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TriSooner posted 6 weeks ago.

Yes, pools are too warm if they are over 70, but my gym keeps it warm for the old people to piss in. And the spin classrooms are kept at <70 with fans on high for the fat girls.

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lala2021 posted 6 weeks ago.

I have to meet up w/ my coach once a month at a Y called Middle Tyger which is 40min away
and they keep that pool at very cool temp for the swim teams to practice. My teeth usually
will be chattering by the end of our session! Whimp! I like a warmer pool but not bath water
warm! As far as the guidlines for exercise i think it will get less as americans just keep
getting bigger and BIGGER! Mind you i was an overweight child but i was in shape. Those
were the days 70's when you stayed out all day on your rollerskates, skate board, bike and
cried when you had to come in. Today its just a sad sight especially where i live.

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fastdog5 posted 5 weeks ago.

It's absolutley pathetic. Luckily most of us (on this site) should have healthy kids because we lead by example. My wife thinks it's hilarious when my 4 year-old stretches with me (OK, it is pretty funny), but he sees me doing healthy things and wants to mimic that, which is pretty cool. The other day he wanted to ride his bike to the local track and run a lap...his idea. Duathlon!

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zagfan posted 5 weeks ago.

I just read the article "Fat to Fit" that Matt Lieto posted and I want to print it out and give it to all of the unhealthy people I know. If the majority of the country would just stop saying, "I could never do that" and just try the results would be amazing. Yes, walking is definitely a form of exercise for most, I just don't want to see those people thinking that's where they stop. Don't stop at walking, too many people set their goals way to low and now the gov't is supporting those low standards. My hat goes off to Matt Lieto, reading stories like his makes me more motivated to push myself further.

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snapdragon posted 5 weeks ago.

I think Matt Lieto just finished at Kona?

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kylie posted 5 weeks ago.

Yup, Matt finished and right into the arms of Chris waiting for him :)

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tri-ac posted 5 weeks ago.

my cereal box this morning had the new food pyramid on it and as part of the small print suggested "60-90 minutes of exercise each day for sustained weight loss"

good thing they didn't have that in big print...you'd have heard the thud as people fainted from the prospects of it! ;)

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fastdog5 posted 5 weeks ago.

60-90 minutes? Wow, I don't even do that! How about "consume fewer calories than you burn" for sustained weight loss? I think I'm on to something.

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Socket posted 5 weeks ago.

So this is the "No Child Left Behind" of fitness? Nice. I suppose it's good to show the unmotivated "Here, that's all you have to do to be healthier. Not so bad, right?" But then dropping the standard so that more people can clear the bar by default is just playing with statistics.

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fastdog5 posted 5 weeks ago.

It's the American way!

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Ironmom posted 5 weeks ago.

fastdog5 wrote:
It's the American way!

When in doubt, muck with the statistics...

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orangedog posted 2 weeks ago.

got a copy of this at a recent race: http://www.bikesbelong.org/files/Bicycling_Booklet_08.pdf
-check out page 6

government motivation:
30 minutes of walking per day would likely cause our sidewalks to give way, leading to a surge in demand for civil engineers and construction firms. there's your domestic job creation!

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TryScott posted 2 weeks ago.

It's cool that the government takes the time and money to find out what physical activity best for me. However, they aren't using their time and money, they are using my time and money. I'd prefer my tax dollars were spent on police, roads, national security.

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TryScott posted 2 weeks ago.

Ironmom wrote:
We've had subsidized fuel here in the U.S. for so long that people have gotten out of the habit of self-transportation, and our governmental systems (trains, busses, etc.) no longer support it.

I know the U.S. does subsidized fuel cost, but it's something I've never understood. It's not like the U.S. government generates money from selling weapons for a profit, or a patent, or anything. Tariffs come close to being money the government generates, but I'm guessing the cost is really passed on to the consumer. What I'm getting at, is that the government takes my our money, then uses that money to lower the price of gas that we buy. Why not just let me keep the money to begin with?

Sorry for the political rant, maybe I'm just upset about the direction that our new president has for our future taxes. I used to see the good in everyone, even politicians that I disagree with. After hearing Jim Moran's speech, I have my doubts that some people are fit to be running the country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJyS1WJNisM

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Ironmom posted 2 weeks ago.

TryScott wrote:

I know the U.S. does subsidized fuel cost, but it's something I've never understood. It's not like the U.S. government generates money from selling weapons for a profit, or a patent, or anything. Tariffs come close to being money the government generates, but I'm guessing the cost is really passed on to the consumer. What I'm getting at, is that the government takes my our money, then uses that money to lower the price of gas that we buy. Why not just let me keep the money to begin with?

Well, I didn't mean literally subsidized fuel as in the govt. taking your money and using it to lower the price of gas. What I meant is that the true environmental costs of our fuel habits have been hidden from us - we don't really pay the true cost of the gas we buy (cost to environment, road building and repair, people's health, etc.). Case in point, in yesterday's elections, a bill got passed in my city that increases property taxes to pay for road repair. So while I'm commuting on my bike, I'm paying for the potholes caused by my neighbor in his SUV. This is an example of govt. "subsidizing" the true cost of fuel. If fuel goes in a vehicle, and that vehicle damages the road, the tax money to repair it should come from the fuel, IMHO.

In many other countries, gas prices more accurately reflect the cost to society of driving a car. Also, other countries have much greater transit infrastructure in place, something that is missing in America because we have designed our cities around the automobile. We haven't invested adequately in bicycle access, trains, light rail, etc. like many other countries have done, so when fuel prices eventually get high enough to reflect reality, many of our citizens simply cannot get around.

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Sorry for the political rant, maybe I'm just upset about the direction that our new president has for our future taxes.

Well, suffice it to say I won't touch that one with a ten foot pole. Can you say "Can O' Worms"???

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[ In many other countries, gas prices more accurately reflect the cost to society of driving a car. Also, other countries have much greater transit infrastructure in place, something that is missing in America because we have designed our cities around the automobile. We haven't invested adequately in bicycle access, trains, light rail, etc. like many other countries have done, so when fuel prices eventually get high enough to reflect reality, many of our citizens simply cannot get around.
Ironmom wrote:

I would like to see improving our countries infrastructure as a major issue in the next election. A rail system (at least in the Northeast), improved bridges, and a dangerously outdated electrical power system being some of the topics.

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Socket posted 2 weeks ago.

Quote:
Well, suffice it to say I won't touch that one with a ten foot pole. Can you say "Can O' Worms"???

All i'll say is "hope for change, prepare for disappointment"

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tri-ac posted 2 weeks ago.

The US is in the unusual position of designing its growth because it is such a young country. Post WWII we invested in cars and personal independence. Who knew then that it was a poor choice, sustainably speaking?

Europe is always pointed to for mass transit, but it's rarely pointed out that the transit had to fit the urban circumstance. Those cities have had dense conditions since their birth hundreds of years ago. So the choice of train or bike or bus came out of the lack of space to put all the individual cars. Let's not kid ourselves that fuel prices more completely represent the societal costs over there. It's still a market economy affected by the localized demands, admittedly with heavier tax structures that support more social programs.

Are these systems worth importing to the US? I personally think so. But I also consider myself more of an urbanite than a rural dweller. There is a huge portion of the US that wants the rural experience. Personal vehicles are part and parcel of that lifestyle.

Fortunately or unfortunately, we in the US are in the position of having to decide as a 300+ million person family how we want to live and grow. There's a lot of inertia to overcome in promoting more sustainable lifestyles. Transportation is only one of them.

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TryScott posted 2 weeks ago.

Ironmom wrote:

Well, I didn't mean literally subsidized fuel as in the govt. taking your money and using it to lower the price of gas. What I meant is that the true environmental costs of our fuel habits have been hidden from us - we don't really pay the true cost of the gas we buy (cost to environment, road building and repair, people's health, etc.). Case in point, in yesterday's elections, a bill got passed in my city that increases property taxes to pay for road repair. So while I'm commuting on my bike, I'm paying for the potholes caused by my neighbor in his SUV. This is an example of govt. "subsidizing" the true cost of fuel. If fuel goes in a vehicle, and that vehicle damages the road, the tax money to repair it should come from the fuel, IMHO.

In many other countries, gas prices more accurately reflect the cost to society of driving a car. Also, other countries have much greater transit infrastructure in place, something that is missing in America because we have designed our cities around the automobile. We haven't invested adequately in bicycle access, trains, light rail, etc. like many other countries have done, so when fuel prices eventually get high enough to reflect reality, many of our citizens simply cannot get around.

That makes more sense than what I think of when I hear "subsidize". Thanks for taking the time to explain.

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Sorry for the political rant, maybe I'm just upset about the direction that our new president has for our future taxes.

Well, suffice it to say I won't touch that one with a ten foot pole. Can you say "Can O' Worms"???


LOL. Yah, after reading what I wrote, I saw it had gone way off topic, and I should of deleted it. Instead I apologized and posted it, which made me feel so much better.

To get back to what the original poster is talking about, it is sad that the government lowered the standards. As people become more sediment, we need to find ways to increase activity, not decrease. When I was a kid, the neighborhood kids would play something, and the adults would join in. Now we have hundreds of TV channels and a new gaming system every year.