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The Great Gebrselassie Breaks 2:04: Is Sub-2:00 on the Horizon?

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The Great Gebrselassie Breaks 2:04: Is Sub-2:00 on the Horizon?
Haile Gebrselassie crosses the finish line in 2:03:59 to win his third straight
Berlin Marathon.

By Don Allison
For Active.com

How low can they go? On September 28, 2008, Ethiopian distance-running great Haile Gebrselassie became the first marathoner to break the 2:04 barrier, authoring an astonishing 2:03:59 in the Berlin Marathon.

Gebrselassie himself was quick to say that although he was quite pleased with the world record (and why wouldn't he be?) he thought it might not last long.

"This is just a record and tomorrow someone can break it," he said after the race. "There are so many good runners and I suppose I will just have to run faster."

There is good reason to think he might be right. One only need look at the record progression from the past decade to see that the world record is improving with increasing regularity. Gebrselassie's record marked the sixth time in the past decade it has been improved. Compare that with the entire decade of the 1970s, when the world record was not improved even once.

Is a Sub-2:00 Marathon Possible?
A better question might be this: will anyone approach or break the two-hour mark? Will that happen within a generation? Sooner? Or is it a crazy notion? Years ago, when the idea of a two-hour marathon was proposed, it was quickly shot down by experts. Preposterous, scientists and other experts said. Such a time would never be seen in our lifetimes. Human physiology would simply not allow it.

That made sense at the time, considering that no one had yet to break one hour for the half marathon. Of course, you can't break two hours for the marathon until you break one hour for the half marathon. That barrier went in 1993, when Kenyan Moses Tanui managed the feat. Since then, the mark has been reduced to 58:33 by current Olympic marathon champion Sammy Wanjiru.

The world's elite are getting closer to that seemingly unattainable sub-two-hour marathon, aren't they? Look at it this way: as recently as 1985 no one had broken 2:08 for the marathon. In April of that year Portuguese Olympic champion Carlos Lopes ran 2:07:12 in London (at age 38!).

Now that 2:04 has been broken, the record has been chopped halfway to 2:00, from 2:08. Will it be another 23 years until 1:59 is reached? Or will the next four minutes take longer to erase?

No one can say for sure, of course, but the idea is not as crazy is it once seemed. Gebrselassie's countryman Kenenisa Bekele is the current world record holder for 10 kilometers, and has been selected by many as a prospective marathon record holder—perhaps even the man with the pedigree to approach two hours.

His 26:17 for 10K works out to 4:14 per mile for the 6.2 miles. In order to run a 1:59 marathon he would have to average 4:34 per mile. That's 20 seconds per mile slower for a little more than four times the distance. Does that sound doable?

Tanui himself has gone on record as saying he thinks sub-two is possible, based, he says, upon how he felt after running 59 minutes for a half marathon. It's easy to say that after you stop halfway! You can look at the numbers any way you like, but in the end anything will be nothing more than an educated guess.

Perfect Conditions
There are mitigating factors against a sub-two-hour marathon. One is the weather. Everyone knows you need ideal weather for an absolute best marathon, whether it is a personal best or a world record.

A runner can train perfectly and be thwarted by a windy, hot and/or rainy day. In addition, it's not as if you can try it every weekend. Elite runners are pretty much limited to one or two all-out efforts per year.

It should be noted that for purposes of this discussion we are excluding the advantage that might be gained by performance-enhancing drugs or techniques such as genetic engineering. Obviously, altering the human physiology in some fundamental way could have a dramatic effect on one's ability to run the marathon at a high rate of speed.

For human physiology as we now know it, Edward Coyle, the director of the Human Performance Laboratory at the University of Texas at Austin, thinks elite runners possess the right stuff. He suggests a marathoner with a VO2 of 84 ml/kg (a measurement reached by a few of the world's top runners) who can sustain 80 percent of that maximum output could conceivably break two hours for the marathon.

"I expect we're ready for a breakthrough (lowering of the men's record)," said Coyle. "I wouldn't be surprised that in the next five to 10 years someone will run below two hours. The records are soft." Easy for him to say!

Records are strange animals. Just when it seems a mark can't be improved any further, someone comes along to do it. Jamaican sensation Usain Bolt broke the 100-meter world record with ease at the 2008 Olympic Games, leading many to wonder just how fast he might be able to run if he truly went all out.

(Don't worry about Bolt moving up to the marathon any time soon, in case you might be wondering about that; he has already flatly refused to even move up to 400 meters, since it so long!)

At the same Olympic Games, the half marathon record holder Wanjiru won the gold medal in the marathon with a mind-boggling performance, clocking 2:06:32 on a hot and humid day in a pressure-packed Olympic final. Few thought that kind of result was possible, yet Sammy made it look easy.

Who knows? Perhaps the entire 21st century will pass by before the two-hour marathon is accomplished. On the other hand, perhaps a long-distance version of Usain Bolt is growing up somewhere in the world and will unleash his talent on the marathon and make history by breaking the vaunted two-hour barrier.

Just think about it; when that runner is casually asked what his personal best for the marathon is, he will be able to say, "Oh, it's 1..."

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beads1985 posted 7 weeks ago.

I thought this was amazing. Under 2 hours in our lifetimes seems to be a possibilty.

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jhudalla posted 7 weeks ago.

beads1985 wrote:

It should be noted that for purposes of this discussion we are excluding the advantage that might be gained by performance-enhancing drugs or techniques such as genetic engineering. Obviously, altering the human physiology in some fundamental way could have a dramatic effect on one's ability to run the marathon at a high rate of speed.

Unfortunately the wheels of this sort of stuff have already been turning. I'd bet in the next 10-15yrs we're gonna have a sub 2hr. I'm a horrible skeptic. Not that wikipedia is the end-all be-all (see Micheal Scott) resource, but this article, in considering the possible implications...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genetic_Engineering

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beads1985 posted 7 weeks ago.

I agree there will alway be those who cheat or modify things to get the advantage.

But this story gives me hope that someone can achieve something with hard work, and sheer determination.

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Anton posted 7 weeks ago.

beads1985 wrote:
I agree there will alway be those who cheat or modify things to get the advantage.

But this story gives me hope that someone can achieve something with hard work, and sheer determination.


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jhudalla posted 7 weeks ago.

To keep it positive:

Its funny, while I was reading your post I was thinking.. .well if one of those dudes would just set aside their entire life and focus soley on the 2hr mark much like they did in the earlier 20th century on the 4min mile... but then I had one of them (wow I'm dumb) moments and realized they're probly already killing themselves day in and day out.

aaaaaand then I feel like a lazy bum. 10-12hrs a week is nothing. :(

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Tri_it_out posted 7 weeks ago.

I got a little upset that the first comment after beads immediately turned to cheating. I think it can be done and I'm looking forward to it in my lifetime. Humans can do just about anything, it just takes time and generations. It'll drop.

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TriSooner posted 7 weeks ago.

jhudalla is right. The author can't expect us to ignore that pink elephant over in the corner by simply saying, "for purposes of this discussion we are excluding the advantage that might be gained by performance-enhancing drugs." That genie is already out of the bottle. In fact it is counter-productive for him to even bring it up ("Performance-enhancing drugs!") and then suggest that we don't even consider it.

But to the OP: Ryan Hall won the '07 Houston Half-Marathon in 59: 43. To make an oversimplistic assumption, doubling the distance and holing that pace would be under 2 hours. So sure, it's possible.

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sbrstlouis posted 7 weeks ago.

Ten years ago it seemed far less possible that someone would break the two-hour barrier. As we saw with Bob Beamon's historic long jump, quantum leaps (sic) in sports performance occasionally occur that significantly eclipse standards previously thought to be unassailable. What is the drug-free human limitation to marathon performance? Who knows for sure, but I'd be willing to be that itis below the 2-hour barrier.

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NotAsFast posted 7 weeks ago.

Holy moses batman. I cant even do 26.2 in 2 hours on my bike..... LOL.....

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PrinceofClydes posted 6 weeks ago.

Anton wrote:

Don't forget the right genetics!

Remember that movie (1979) with Susan Anton (any relation? heh.)
Golden Girl?

want genetics?
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jonovision_man posted 6 weeks ago.

How much do they test these guys? Is there an elaborate program like cycling has?

Cyclists often complain that they're vilified for all the positives, but nobody mentions that they're tested more than other sports... and I have some sympathy for them, in Operation Puerto, we got the names of the cyclists, but what about the soccer players and tennis stars that were also implicated?

I haven't heard of marathoning positives... either I'm not paying enough attention (possible) or they aren't testing much (probable).

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stewarba posted 6 weeks ago.

Records tend to be broken by small amounts, but every so often a person emerges that just doesn't break the records by a little bit, but rather smashes the old mark. Phelps in the pool as an example. Traditionally, records in the pool have been broken by a finger or a hand length, but Phelps is breaking records by body lengths. 5 years ago, I bet most experts would not have seen that coming.

I think it will happen and I don't think it will be a slow lead up. I think it will just happen one day.

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Hawaii 5O posted 6 weeks ago.

If Haile Gebrselassie wore a Speedo suit like Phelps he would crack 2:00 for sure!

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Hawaii 5O posted 6 weeks ago.

Let's not forget that many in the triathlon community saw PNF's 8.49 (?) mark for an iron-distance best to be almost untouchable (indeed it was so for a good many years), that is until mid-2008 when about half-a-dozen women came either within a minute of the time or actually broke it. Now the best time is around 8.45 which given the recent performances seems hardly likely to see out the end of the decade.

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beads1985 posted 6 weeks ago.

PrinceofClydes wrote:
Anton wrote:

Don't forget the right genetics!

Remember that movie (1979) with Susan Anton (any relation? heh.)
Golden Girl?

want genetics?
Call Monsanto.

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Oh boy do I remember Susan Anton!!
Puberty was hitting when she was popular ;-)

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