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started by vistring on July 22, 2008

Hello everybody,

Recently I have experimenting with cycling to as many places as I can. Cycling to the store, pool, post office, work, track. etc. I was wondering if anybody else uses a bike for these purposes in addition to training rides. Also curious if they help you build a better cycling base in that being on the bike more equals faster and stronger or does it just wear you down so when you do go on your training ride you get less out of it. When "commuting" I am not trying to set any PRs or anything. Just a nice steady pace to get me to my destination

-vistring

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beads1985 posted 5 weeks ago.

Riding everywhere does not hurt you at all. You will get used to the bike and you will strengthen muscles. However you will still need to have some focused training rides to get you prepared for an event.

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azmojo804 posted 5 weeks ago.

vistring, I just finally purchased a road bike in March/April and due to not ever having clipless shoes, etc I decided I should change my Thursday bike training rides into a commute to and from work. I drive about half way, then bike the other half (20 miles or so).

It hasn't worn me down at all, but rather, it has definitely helped my riding a huge amount. The first thing is that due to my newness with clipless, I had to unclip/reclip at a lot of stoplights on the way to work. So, I wouldn't say I'm an expert, but I can usually clip right away on first try now, as opposed to when I first started, it took a minute or so to clip. I've gotten really comfortable with it.

Additionally, I use some of the roads as intervals. Push it hard for the mile between lights, then recover for a mile between lights. It's a nice way for me to get a burn. :) And, if I'm not up to it for the day, at least I'm getting some miles under my butt. :)

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brittda posted 5 weeks ago.

I do pretty much everywhere. Like Beads said though, you still need to do a regular training ride too. I HAVE however used my commute to work as my actual workout.

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Ironmom posted 5 weeks ago.

Yes, I bike commute everywhere. Since I'm a homeschooling mom, it's often with my kids in tow on our tandem, or our tandem plus the tagalong.

Most years, about 30% of my mileage comes from bike commuting. Last season, despite putting in only one week of over 10 hours of tri-specific training, I turned in a 1:09 bike split in an Oly race and a 2:52 in the half-Iron. And that was with less than 5 hours a week on my tri bike. I think bike commuting adds a lot to my training. Specifically, it's just time on the bike, and also there's a lot of starting and stopping (on the tandem with both of my kids, that's a lot of weight to get going), and pushing bigger gears (I don't keep the cadence that I do on my tri bike).

In general, I'm always impressed with how much bike commuting and biking with my kids adds to my triathlon fitness.

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m2tall2 posted 5 weeks ago.

I have wondered things similar to this (can you use it for a workout, will it just train you to go slow/use poor form, etc). My main stumbling block for getting to work at this point is I would have to go through some pretty dirty, hilly, pothole laden, busy roads (with lots of cars parked along the sides) to get to work - not to mention through some pretty sketchy neighborhoods. I just don't think my road bike and skill level are cut out for that type of ride and overall I would feel more comfortable finding myself a nice commuter bike - probably a hand-me-down comfort style bike. Is there a negative effect to using a totally different type of daily commuter bike?

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jhudalla posted 5 weeks ago.

I bike to work, to class, to the gym... but they're all within 2 miles of my place... so not much.

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azmojo804 posted 5 weeks ago.

m2tall2 wrote:
Is there a negative effect to using a totally different type of daily commuter bike?

I don't think there is a negative effect of using a different bike, as long as you are doing some training on your competition bike.

Doing offroading with a mountain bike is great training to build up a lot of strength due to the dirt/hill combo. Going back to my road bike feels easy after doing some of those hills.

The more time under your butt, the better.

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bluebirdbiker posted 5 weeks ago.

I do not own a car and commute everywhere 365 by bike, do IMs etc. I ride a minimum of 52km (30mi) per day. It takes a while to learn how to go slow and save the right intensity for the right time. But as Beads says, it will make you stronger for sure.

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jhudalla posted 5 weeks ago.

I second that one... I go hard all the time on my commuter when I should be cruising... result = sweaty brow when I get to work. The plus is my commuter weighs 2x my racer. When I get on that thing I feel like I'm flyin!

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tritoride28 posted 5 weeks ago.

I use commuting as my main form of bike training because I ride uphill to and from work (sounds crazy, but the vertical climb and decent is the same for almost all hills, so the same ones you go up and down there you go back on) and because I somehow was able to make the touring bike i bought fit like my tri bike. So its like I am always training when I ride to work, plus hauling extra weight on the rear of the bike and the weight of the bike itself helps build strength as well.

I bike to work 3 days a week( roughly 90 miles), 1 a week go for a run right away when I get home. I will drive tues/thurs so i can get my pool swim in the morning and run in the afternoon. I feel that being able to bike to work uses time more effectively than driving to work because you have already worked out twice by the time you get home.

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Mikeroe posted 5 weeks ago.

I commute to work (13km each way) about 4-5X a week. The distance isn't long enough to do any long distance bike training so I use it for brick training. I go pretty hard on the ride to work, lock up the bike as fast as I can and then get in a good run for 15-30 mins.

If the ride in is bumpy, get a 2nd hand clunky commuter. Also, you won't mind using a quick lock to lock it up and take a nice run after.

Do the same on the way home and you got in two decent workouts.

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Ironmom posted 5 weeks ago.

m2tall2 wrote:
I have wondered things similar to this (can you use it for a workout, will it just train you to go slow/use poor form, etc). My main stumbling block for getting to work at this point is I would have to go through some pretty dirty, hilly, pothole laden, busy roads (with lots of cars parked along the sides) to get to work - not to mention through some pretty sketchy neighborhoods. I just don't think my road bike and skill level are cut out for that type of ride and overall I would feel more comfortable finding myself a nice commuter bike - probably a hand-me-down comfort style bike. Is there a negative effect to using a totally different type of daily commuter bike?

Here is my workhorse of a commuter bike (the one in front of the two Bike Friday tandems):

I bought this bike because at the time I had a 22 mile roundtrip commute that consisted of gravel road, dirt trail with serious hills, mud, road with no shoulder, city streets with grates and potholes, and sidewalks. This has been a terrific bike and has lasted me 14 years of happy commuting so far. When I used to commute on dirt, mud, and gravel I had knobbies on it, now I just have street tires.

I haven't found any negative effect whatsoever with switching between my tri bike, this bike, and the red tandem behind it.

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beads1985 posted 5 weeks ago.

How about "Bike, Forrest,Bike"

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hammerin hop posted 5 weeks ago.

This is something I've wondered about as a newbie, too! Does biking everywhere, often with hills involved count as some training? Should I take it into consideration when planning my training program? I usually just adjust if I feel like I've done a lot of bike commuting in a short amount of time. It definitely helps build up a base though!

Great post.

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tritoride28 posted 5 weeks ago.

I think that commuting helps to builid a base, but if you are going to incorporate it into your training, you need to make a conscious effort to include a training aspect into the ride. For instance pushing all hills or stoplight intervals etc. You could also extend your ride and really make it a workout.

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tri-ac posted 5 weeks ago.

i count it in my log, but it doesn't replace training sessions

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bluebirdbiker posted 5 weeks ago.

I've been commuting to and from work a total of 30mi/day for 5yrs., and one way is to use the biking as a tool to improve for bricks. I.e., come from work and brick it. It has made bricks my fav. and there is no problem with them. Pace, time and nutrition is key as is the strategy for riding. Some days are recovery and others are used as interval days. This leaves the Sat. or Sun. for long 3+hr rides. Most of the biking as commuting are done as z1 low z2 (mentally hard sometimes) and when used for training, the hills are taken accordingly. It is good cause I plan around it. The spins to work after a long day of a 2.5-3hr run helps in recovery. These recovery days are also critical to make sure you intake proper nutrients. All round commuting and training can be complementary if done right. Great if you can do it!

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