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Tri-Shoes - Biking Shoes - Or just cage pedals?

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started by StephenPDennis on June 9, 2008

So.... my first sprint is on Sunday and I am more than a little nervous. But with each ride, swim and run I'm feeling the rush of enthusiasm more and more. I can't wait really, but I still have some questions for the more experienced masses...

What is the deal with cycling shoes? Right now, I'm still a little uneasy on the bike so I just wear an old pair of running shoes and I have those cheapy plastic-cage pedals. (It's not that I'm not a confident bike rider, I'm just not sure I'm ready to be physically attached to my bike yet) I figured, at this point I'll be more comfortable (emotionally if not physically) with this set up and it's too late to introduce a new piece of hardware into my routine. But assuming I feel the addiction after my first sprint, what do you recommend I check out?

It seemed logical to me that just wearing the running shoes would save time on the short course, since I don't have to put on shoes 2x during the race. But I can obviously understand the power advantage that clip ons give and most likely that wins out in even the shortest of courses...

Does anyone out there use the cage pedals? What are good shoes and pedals for a extremely novice triathlete to invest in? Again, thank you all so much for taking the time to help me and all the other newcomers out.

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tsilcyc posted 10 weeks ago.

I wouldn't make any changes until after you race. Don't try to learn something new on race day.

Invest in clipless pedals. There's a small learning curve but you will not regret it. Well... not after you fall down a couple of times but that's the initiation.

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TriSooner posted 10 weeks ago.

tsilcyc wrote:
I wouldn't make any changes until after you race. Don't try to learn something new on race day.

Invest in clipless pedals. There's a small learning curve but you will not regret it. Well... not after you fall down a couple of times but that's the initiation.

+1 At least you save time in T1 and T2.

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theShiba posted 10 weeks ago.

Obviously not on race day, but I also recommend you go with clipless and Tri-shoes, if you can afford them.

You'll be amazed at how much smoother, and more enjoyable your time on the bike will feel. If you get good at things, you won't really lose that much time in transition either.

Yes, you will fall, several times when you first get them. Practice getting in and out (mostly out) on grass, and do your best to fall to the left. Post your slow-motion stories here so we can all make fun of you, and tell you about our memories of falling in slow-motion as well. It will be fun.

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overcome posted 10 weeks ago.

I have Speedplay pedals and am very happy with them. You can clip into them on both sides of he pedal and this makes getting in much easier (although I have never tried any other brand of pedal so I am just assuming that). I picked Up clipping out very quickly, my only fall was when I was trying to take my gloves off while riding. I have had some near falls when I go up to a light and expect it to change so I do not clip out but I get to the intersection and the light is still red.

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StephenPDennis posted 10 weeks ago.

Oh, I'll regale you all with my stories of humiliating knee-skinning in super-slo-mo.

I just moved and to my great luck there is a LBS with that is obviously just a front for Triathlete drugs and carbon-disk/aero-frame porn. (they have a few Huffy's in front with flowers and baskets but step into the backroom and it's all Felt, Orca and sweet, sweet aero bars) I'll browse their selection of gear.

Are 'tri' shoes really worth an extra investment or are they just rejiggered biking shoes marketed to people who they know will spend an extra $100 if it says 'tri' on it? Any brands you guys specifically recommend?

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fastdog5 posted 10 weeks ago.

Tri shoes typically have one large strap over the top, which makes them much easier to get on & off in transition, vs. 2 or 3 latches/straps for a regular cycling shoe. Some people slip out of their shoes toward the end of the bike leg & run to T2 barefoot, which knocks seconds off your transition time. This can be tricky with regular cycling shoes. Whether or not it's worth the investment: If you don't already have cycling shoes, you may as well get tri shoes - they aren't any more expensive than similar quality cycling shoes. If you already have regular bike shoes, only you can decide if it's worth the cost vs. how much time you can save. I have regular cycling shoes & have not made the switch to tri shoes yet because I have more urgent needs for my upgrade $.

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jsk85 posted 10 weeks ago.

I use regular bike shoes and have no problem with them...I'll invest in tri shoes when they make ones I can clip out and immediately take off on the run without any change. Until then bike shoes work fine for me.

And as far as being physically attached to the bike being a concern, I think it's safer than clips or the "cages" as you call them. I liken it to skis, when you wreck on a bike (or skis) the twisting of your ankle or leg releases you from the locked in position so you can separate whether you want to or not. With foot-clips, when you twist, they hold on to your toe/midfoot. That to me seems much harder on the ankle no to mention the fact that your bike will remain to go where you go as the momentum from a crash carries you. I personally have never wrecked, but would rather do it "cliplessly"

The only price you pay is the learning curve of trying to clip out before you fall like a newly tipped cow

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hipfan posted 10 weeks ago.

I have been using road shoes for a couple of years now and am thinking of upgrading to tri shoes for one reason. The stap goes the opposite way to road shoes. When I am getting to T2, I have to loosen the staps but not unzip totally, otherwise they are flapping in my rear wheel. They still rub the spokes a little bit though. You can alway tell when I am coming to T2 because I sound like the kid with a baseball card flapping in his spokes.

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kylie posted 10 weeks ago.

The other difference in road and tri shoes is that tri shoes don't fit quite as snug around your foot. So road shoes offer a bit better power transfer in general. That is a direct result of having fewer straps, since with 1 or 2 it can't get as form fitting as with the 3 on many bike shoes. I will use tri shoes for sprints, since it does make transitions easier. But I am undecided on what I'll do for a half IM or full since then comfort of the bike shoe and the transfer has a bigger time to affect me.

Yes, go with the shoes that you clip in with. I ride Look pedals and like them a lot. And I also find I'm much more comfortable with that than the cages. Actually, the only person who almost crashed getting on the bike right where I was watching Escape from Alcatraz this weekend was a girl with cages who almost hit the curb while having to look down and fumble with them.

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jtrimom posted 10 weeks ago.

and do get the pedals that you can clip into on both sides, b/c I DON'T have those kind- (mine only clip in one side) and it is ANNOYING to keep having to flip over the pedal to the right side every time I have to stop and start. Unfortunately, I do have a "tri" budget and new pedals are not going to fit into it this year :(

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cjhoffmn posted 10 weeks ago.

I've ridden "cages" before and found for me that moving to clip-ins was actually easier to get out of for a fall. Somehow, just twisting a little was easier to me than pulling my foot backwards. I guess I'm lucky, but never took the slow mo' fall after switching. I expected to, and practiced getting out a bunch to try to prevent the problem.

To tri or not to tri - that's not a question at all!

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cutiger95 posted 10 weeks ago.

Also if you snow ski you will find the motions of disengaging very similar to exiting your downhill skii's. Being a mountain biker I thought the clips were insane until I put them on my bike and now I refuse to ride without them. Definitely worth the overall investment.

Most also have an adjuster for the stiffness on the release. When you first start back this off so it is easier to get out of them. Then as you get confidence tighten it down a little. It will keep your foot more stable and transfer more power.

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StephenPDennis posted 10 weeks ago.

Thanks guy. I too have a budget for all my gear this year and this looks like the very last thing I can cram in. I'm going to have my sprint this weekend, then most likely spend a day or two just doing some easy running so I suppose I'll be looking to pick these up about a week from now. Photos of bloodied knees to immediately follow. ;)